'Impeachment is hell,' ex-Clinton investigator Ken Starr cautions about TrumpSeptember 16, 2018
Published 12:50 PM EDT Sep 16, 2018
Ken Starr, the man who led the investigation that resulted in President Bill Clinton’s impeachment, said Sunday he was was not surprised to see former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort cooperate with special counsel Robert Mueller and that he hopes President Donald Trump does not suffer Clinton’s fate because “impeachment is hell.”
“He was under tremendous pressure,” the former judge said, explaining Manafort’s decision during an interview on “ABC This Week.”
“Given the seriousness of the charges that were awaiting him, he did the right thing. He did the smart thing,” he said.
Starr, who is promoting his new book “Contempt: A Memoir of the Clinton Investigation,” said the deal could signify that Manafort has something useful to Mueller’s investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election and possible links between Russia and the Trump campaign.
“It is very likely that Paul Manafort has indicated through his counsel and directly that he can provide very helpful information, useful information to get to the bottom of what Bob Mueller and his team have been charged to do,” Starr said. “So it is a very significant breakthrough.”
But Starr cautioned that cooperating witnesses in deals like this do not always end up giving the prosecutor what they had hoped for. As an example, he cited his experience with Arkansas attorney Webb Hubbell, with whom Starr cut a deal while he was an independent counsel in the Whitewater investigation into alleged improprieties surrounding a 1978 real estate deal that involved Bill and Hillary Clinton.
Starr said he did not think Hubbell “cooperated with us” and that “it turned out he really didn’t have as much information as we thought he would.”
Mueller is an “honest” and “ethical guy” who will not allow Manafort to feed him any false information even if it would help his case, he added. Starr imagined Mueller would tell Manafort the same thing he used to tell his own cooperating witnesses: “We can deal with the truth, whatever the truth is. What we can’t deal with are lies.”
Starr said that while Trump has the power to pardon Manafort, doing so would raise real questions about “abuse of power.”
Later Sunday, Starr told CNN “State of the Union” host Jake Tapper that pardoning Manafort would be “unwise” and “imprudent.”
He also said he hopes the Mueller investigation does not lead to President Donald Trump’s impeachment.
“Impeachment is hell. The country should not be taken through that,” Starr told Tapper. “Unless there is a growing national consensus that impeachment is proper it’s doomed to fail and it’s just the wrong way to go.”
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